Raw Chocolate Drink?

topic posted Wed, August 31, 2005 - 3:34 PM by  Obsidian
Dose any one know how to properly make chocolate milk or hot cocoa from the raw cacao bean?

I just got done drinking some home made chocolate milk that I made by grinding up raw cacao beans, simmering in water, and mixing it with a cup of condensed, water added powdered milk. I added about three tablespoons of Sugar in the Raw to sweeten it. How long dose one simmer the ground cacao beans? Dose one boil the water first, then add the ground beans, then reduce to a simmer; or dose one add the ground beans to water, bring to a boil, and then simmer?

I have to admit, even if I did ill-prepare the chocolate, it still came out really good!

I have a Hennery’s, a Bonney's, and a Trader Joe's in my area that are all natural food stores where I can find raw cacao beans. The beans they sell seem to be all ready roasted. When pealing off the chaff, the bean itself looks like a hard chocolate coated raisin. Any ideas on how to more efficiently and quickly peal the chaff, it took me forever by hand.
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Obsidian
San Diego
  • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

    Wed, August 31, 2005 - 10:41 PM
    you might try blanching them like you would nuts? I dunno it's the best thought I have, I'll ask at school, I know just the instructor to ask, he knows like everything about chocolate.
    • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

      Wed, August 31, 2005 - 11:42 PM
      Yeah, what I did was simmer the ground up cacao beans so that the chocolate flavor and color came out into the water; much like brewing tea, but with the heat still going. I then mixed the chocolate water with the condensed milk I made, and sweeten it. It came out really good, but I'm not sure if I did it the best way, or if I lost much of the nutritional benefits that raw cacao beans have. I’m thinking next time to just boil the water by itself , turn off the flame once it starts to boil, and pour in the ground cacao beans, and let it steep without the heat damaging the antioxidants.
      • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

        Thu, September 1, 2005 - 7:07 AM
        Sometimes when I am in a hurry I blanch things in the microwave with steam, its faster because the steam is hotter than boiling water, the other advantage to this is that the "water won't cause the leaching of flavor and color. also the beans them selves would produce heat from the inside out, literally pushing the skins off. otherwise a good sharp paring knife might be the only way.
  • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

    Thu, September 1, 2005 - 8:17 AM
    I've been reading (mostly online, but that's cuase i'm at work) about natives and cocoa beans.

    These are not specifically to address your issue, but some things you might want to try, for teh "fun" of it, as you seem adventerous in your chocolate.

    1) one thing often done was to "roast" the beans in the dirt of a covered fire (that is, the coals only) over night - it more "bakes" them than really roasts them,but it apparently brings out different aspects to the drink.

    2) drink the drink with well ground beans, KEEPING the beans in the drink as you drink it (ack).

    3) most of the drinks listed were with water only, not milk (ack), but it creates a more bitter flavor.

    4) instead of suger, try these different sweatners, all found in various history books. Honey; dates or other local fruits (most of them had names I didn't konw, sorry); flower petals from ediable flowers.

    ohh, i just read that the beans you are bying are "roasted", i read RAW and thought, uncooked, not unprocessed. :-) guess #1 is irrevelant.

    5) add chili pods to teh water as you boil.

    6) add mushrooms to teh water as you boil. (hum, let's guess what *kind* of mushrooms those were, given that the ancients drank this for ummm... "effect" more than taste or health. grins wide. peyote works,too, but i don't have peyote on hand. grins again).

    7) ground with chili then simmerd thick, and served on yellow sweet potatoes or other sweet roots. (a traditional mole sauce?).

    anyhow, how are you grinding the beans, if i can ask...
    • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

      Fri, September 2, 2005 - 1:28 AM
      "2) drink the drink with well ground beans, KEEPING the beans in the drink as you drink it (ack). "

      Actually keeping the ground cacao beans in the drink isn't bad. As long as they are finely ground and have been simmering in the heated water long enough to soften.

      I didn't want to use my roommate’s coffee grinder without his permission, so I took a bowl and ground the beans with a spoon. The roasted cacao beans crumble apart pretty easily, so it was a quick process; though the coffee grinder would have yielded a considerably much finer grain. I got his permission tonight to use the grinder, so if I'm off today I'll try it.
      • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

        Fri, September 2, 2005 - 7:48 AM
        I actually was goign to ask about a mortor and pestle (sp).

        I use those for my pestos, and find them to be much more "gentle" since they are pressing and not chopping. but it seems it might be harder on BEANS than, you know, basil leaves and pine nuts. ;-)

        enjoy...
        • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

          Fri, September 2, 2005 - 1:52 PM
          You know, I have heard that mortor and pestles work best. I may just get a set. Traditionaly Cacao beans where ground on a heated stone ruffly the size of an anvil, but I think I'll try the mortor and pestal.
          • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

            Fri, September 2, 2005 - 3:14 PM
            raditionaly Cacao beans where ground on a heated stone ruffly the size of an anvil,
            --
            Grins, yeah, and i fyou look at any of the skeletons of the women, thier knees were ruined. ;-0
            • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

              Fri, September 2, 2005 - 3:34 PM
              as odd as it may sound, if you use the mortar and pestle method, try adding your sugar to the beans in there and grind it with them, this will actually cause more friction and prodiuce a finer paste, Kind of like conching on a very short and small scale.
              • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

                Fri, September 2, 2005 - 8:29 PM
                ok, if you are going all out with raw beans, woudn't it be more "natual" to flavor it with things like fruit, or honey?

                (we are having this discussion on another chocolate tribe. god love chcolate)
                • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

                  Sat, September 3, 2005 - 2:58 PM
                  even thoug that would be natural they would also add their own flavor profile........... Dehydrated cane juice would be most natural thing you could add without adding another flavor to the chocolate flavor, unless you used something like stevia but that wouldn't add to the texture either
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                    Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

                    Sun, September 4, 2005 - 12:35 AM
                    Hum...steva, I've heard of it, isn’t that suppose to be an alternative sweetener? The reason I was really going for the natural cacao beans, was to find out what the real unprocessed flavor of chocolate was like. Also, I hear that the cacao beans are loaded with antioxidants, more so than blueberries but I'm unsure if cacao exceeds that of green tea. Also there are a myriad of other nutrients contained in those beans.

                    Hum...I wonder how one would turn cacao beans into chocolate candy. Obviously the ground cacao is mixed with something that one could solidify into, lets say, a bunny.
                    What is that edible waxy substance? Is it derived from the cacao? If it isn't, what have we been eating?
                    • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

                      Sun, September 4, 2005 - 8:40 AM
                      oaded with antioxidants, more so than blueberries but I'm unsure if cacao exceeds that of green tea.
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                      Oh,yes it does. not only that, it's is being proven to lower the plack in the arteries, and it helps coughs.

                      (these facts can all be found at teh "chocolate tribe" where we always post the GOOD reasons for chocolate. as if we needed more reasons. :-)

                      the theobromine (sp?) in chocolate sooths your throat when you have a persistant cough.


                      weeee.... chocolate, the food of teh gods.
                      • Re: Raw Chocolate Drink?

                        Wed, September 14, 2005 - 12:08 AM
                        "the theobromine in chocolate sooths your throat when you have a persistant cough."

                        Huh? I'll have to remeber to load up on cacao beans this winter. My allergies pick up and I tend to get coughing fits.

                        I just picked up a bag of "Nature's First Law, Certified Organic Raw Chocolate(Raw Cacao Nibs)" from Jimbo's organic food store. It's absolutley wonderful! The the beans are pre-peeled and all one has to do is grind them up and go to town! I just gound a 1/4th cup of cacao nibs into a fine powder, steeped the powder in boiled water (removed from heat) and mixed it with milk. Oh, wow! Of course I had to sweeten it, but man, this is so much better than any manufactured powder or syrup! It dosen't just taste better, but it actually feels good. You actually get a bit of a rush while drinking it. (Also depends how much cacao one uses)

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